Here are ways to deal with most of the things that are wrong with our health care system, none of which will cost the taxpayers any money at all. (Please watch both parts before commenting.) Restore consumer-controlled health care: www.downsizedc.org Make your health insurance more affordable: www.downsizedc.org Protect and Improve Health Savings Accounts: www.downsizedc.org End onerous health care regulations: www.downsizedc.org Sources: Parente, S. et al, “Consumer Response to a National Marketplace for Individual Insurance,” Final Technical Report for DHHS Contract HP-07-024, aspe.hhs.gov Brook, R. et al, “The Effect of Coinsurance on the Health of Adults,” R-3055-HHS, www.rand.org Ruwart, Mary J., “Healing Our World in an Age of Aggression” (Second Edition) Bovard, James, “Shakedown: How the Government Screws You From A to Z” Angell, Marcia and Arnold S. Relman. “Prescription for profit,” The Washington Post 2001 Jun 20; Sect. A:27.
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The GOP solution to the deficit: LOWER TAXES.
The GOP solution to the near collapse of the financial and credit markets and the near collapse of the auto manufacturing industry and the spin off jobs and businesses: DO NOTHING.
“Keeping more of your own money” is just a GOP propaganda line.
If you get a small tax credit, but your h. insurance premium goes up by 30% or more, you are NOT keeping more of your own money.
What are the numbers for overhead if you use the SAME definition for both the scam and the legitimate corporations?
I keep reading arguments that have already been delt with in the video series.
Any one have any original arguments?
Are you an advocate of limited government?
If you don’t mind my asking.
Over 50% of people now receive significant benefits from the government. If you count the friends and family of those people you have a super majority. You really think you can convince those people to give up their benefits?
You might as well try to talk a lottery winner out of cashing his ticket.
I wasnt lying. All you do is answer people who disagree with you with adhominem attacks. That’s all you do. Your so convinced of your own intellectual superiority, you treat anyone who would openly disagree with you with such disdain. It is you who behaves like a creationist, ShaneDK.
Neither do I.
I can go to any walk-in clinic and even without an appointment rarely wait more than an hour at most to see a doctor. You can check that out. Just get a phone directory for any Canadian city, (outside the province of Quebec), call any walk-in clinic, and ask what the wait time is.
I specified the legislative process specifically to exclude violent means and fiscal collapse. Are you advocating a revolution?
Regardless, after the revolution the new congress promptly passed new taxes and George Washington himself led an army to enforce it. New boss same as old boss; Indeed worse considering the results.
Also, 1776 is the best you can do? No significant cuts to government power in centuries? You must have some basis for believing that a modern government can be cut.
OK, now I’m puzzled, how can you EVER just churn out fiat money without causing inflation? Or are we talking about an artifact of the way that Japan’s real economy caught up with it’s paper one?
Government is not subject to the factors of profit/loss so we know a priori IT ISN’T efficiently run.
The modern state is able to allow much more personal freedom than ANY society before it, but there will always be a price to pay, and if the society is of the more caring kind (like mine) the price is higher, not in limitation on personal freedom but in how much of my work goes into keeping the system going. In a libertarian state the security offered is more limited and the price is lower – but it’s still there.
I’ve noticed some of my comments, and some other people’s comments, tending to not be associated with their parents any more.
Why have a patchwork of programs when you can just have a national health care financing system?
By the way, a national h.c. financing system is not the same thing as “government health care”, no matter how much the GOP try to confuse the issue.
That sounds pretty much like any organization. The wonderful thing about free markets is that they only allow the continued existence of organizations that people WANT to do business with, which creates an actual control on their behavior if they are to continue to survive.
As societies grow in size and complexity the individual tends to gain more and more personal freedom (this is not something that happens automatically – most often it will have to be fought for) You have a LOT more personal freedom than you’d have in a stone age family group. However, the state still serves the function of providing security, so you will have to give up some freedom to gain the benefits of society, how much is up for debate.
I’ll tell you, this sounds wonderful. Wouldn’t have thought I could hear a minarchist health plan that could work.
That certainly rules out any ‘decent’ society having UHC, since the first thing it does is ensure that people can’t get access.
*Ahem, Government sucks, statism sucks. (Im thinking shanedk may think so too, so yeah)
This is one example how the state (govt’)fucks up the economy.
Free market ftw.
@ megarational
at least you get my point. i have forseen healthcare costs that equal about $500.00 year with insurance coverage. if you really are in your 60′s your expenses would be far greater than mine if you didn’t live in Canada. but at least i don’t have to wait a week to see a doctor in an emergency do i?
See that’s a real argument good to see that on this board
Basically my argument would be that humans are social animals and generally dependent on the group for survival. As societies progress this group tends to grow in size to accomodate all the necessary functions of a civilized society. To keep itself together this group will need some kind of governing body as to not descend into anarchy. Hence we have the state. Basically the state supplies what the smaller family group did before.
Sounds like you ARE a pap smear.
if your healthcare needs are the same as mine, then can you go get a papsmear for me, i hate them.
thanks!!
Face it you egotistical dick weed – you just have a “pie in the sky” circular dogmatic ideology that has never worked in the real world.
You and Ron Paul are out of touch with the mother ship.
At least Ron Paul is intelligent.
You can’t even make that claim.
I never had to wait more than half an hour when they saved my life when i was 15, so I’m pleased with them.
In your country some people have to wait till they die cos they can’t afford a vital, lifesaving operation, and in your proposal this wouldn’t change, regardless of how you speak about ‘charity’ hospitals.
There’s nothing at all wrong with socialism in the manner we see it in modern western countries such as France or the UK.